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"Rule of thumb" or "fingering Frescobaldi".  Plsease note that Gieseking avoided thumb in Schubert's Imromptu Op 90 - Henle ed. But hw ca one avoid thumb in Bach's Allemand in  6th French suite - which seems to be a "thumb etude". And what about Czerny's "Passing under" etude in "Dexterity", Op 740, No 2. And Robert Schumann "From foreign Lands" op 13 - another "closeted" thumb etude... Andrew And then Cortot: don't make the thumb sould loud )Introduction to Chopin)


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From: Jan de Groot<mailto:[log in to unmask]> 

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Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 4:32 AM

Subject: early fingering in rapid passages



My post on early fingering yielded valuable reactions. Once again it became clear,
at least to me, that for this subject there are no clear and unique rules. Music
differs from mathematics.
I bought Claudio Di Veroli's interesting and highly worthwhile book on fingering.
But it mainly covers 18th century French keyboard music. On that period there exists
much evidence. My question concerned
17th century music by English Virginalists such as Byrd where fast scales quite often occur.
As far as I know, there is less known about fingering this kind of music. There was
no "François Couperin" or "C. P.E. Bach" of that period. Monsieur De Saint Lambert
seems to be one of the exceptions. From the latter, and from Davitt Moroney's
reaction, I understood that good fingering should be the outcome of a good
handposition taking into account Davitt's "rule of thumb" (avoid the thumb where
you can). 
It will certainly be true that most contemporary instructions were addressed to
beginners, whereas the virtuosi of that time played differently using their 10
fingers.
Byrd and Sweelinck did not leave ample instruction on the execution of their works.
And, maybe, their fingering was different when playing a large organ with its
deeper going keys than the harpsichord. 

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