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> Date:    Sun, 13 Jan 2013 23:22:06 -0500
> From:    Robert Watson <[log in to unmask]>
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> when I studied Composition at the Royal Conservatory of Music, Toronto--- one of the techniques we were looking at was the innovations of Messsian ----even though I was there in the early 1990s.   It was nice to see the works of an *organist* being used as an example for composition students.

Since 1800, Messiaen is one of the very seldom examples of organist beeing a really valuable top-levelled first-class composer.  Two others are Mendelssohn and Franck.

> I learned many things from that era of my life. I write from time to time, and it is all in a very traditional way now. It is my style.

Messiaen's mode2 is one of the most helpful tool for nicely improvising in any occasion on immediate request, and is considered as a kind of Messiaen's signature -- despite it was used quite earlier (Ravel, Alain, etc).  Any improviser has to have it in his/her tool-box.

> Date:    Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:49:08 +0800
> From:    Bob Elms <[log in to unmask]>

> I heard Gillian Weir play Messiaen on the organ in my church. "The Angels" blew me away. I also heard Pierre Cochereau play the whole of "The Nativity" on the Cathedral organ in Perth

It seems highly significant to me that most performed organ pieces by Messiaen are from his first period (L'Ascension, The Nativity, the Banquet celeste and l'Apparition de l'Eglise Eternelle, the latter beeing rather weak IMHO) to which can be added the absolutely superb Preludes for the piano, and they are good reasons for this.  After the war, Messiaen was influenced by Boulez' opinions who was in his class, and began writing works as the Livre d'Orgue and the followers.  Who plays those in concert?  Not to speak of services.  They can be heard only in competitions now...

> Was it [Le Banquet] ever intended to be a church voluntary? I have only heard it in recitals.

Of course not.  Messiaen never wrote organ pieces for liturgy, and by all means the shortest of his works would be too long...

NG

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