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Friedrich Sprondel <[log in to unmask]>
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Friedrich Sprondel <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:26:20 +0200
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Am 25. Okt 2006 um 16:25 schrieb Brad Lehman:

> Responding to a bunch of different ideas from yesterday's digest,  
> excerpted:
>
> =====
>
>>> Let's face it--to the average person in the pew, indeed, to the
>>> average musician, all the various tunings are esoteric enough that
>>> most people are not interested.
>
> Perhaps true; but why spoil it for those who *can* hear those  
> subtleties
> and are interested to do so?  Look at it this way: if our eyes were
> built with only rods, no cones, we wouldn't care much about color
> because we couldn't perceive it directly...but different colors of  
> light
> would exist anyway.

They wouldn't, because there would be no-one to tell us. They would  
be some Kantian "Ding an sich" that cannot affect us. -- But your  
comparison is valid anyway: If we *lost* our ability to see the  
colours because they weren't important anymore, or because our  
environment turned colourless (the reverse must have happened around  
1950, at least that's what Calvin's dad tells his son), then a lot of  
beauty, and possibilities of creating it, would be lost as well.

Learning about different tuning systems to me was an experience I  
wouldn't want to miss. They are part of the music I love, and they  
are part of the development of Western music as a whole. Large  
portions of the repertoire were conceived with these intervals in the  
ear of composers and players -- and with no serious alternative. If  
those tuning systems were doomed deficient, then the music that made  
use thereof would be as well. Ignoring the beauties and challenges  
offered by non-equal tuning systems would be plainly, well, ignorant.

Is it possible that part of our problem here is that an organ is such  
a huge and expensive thing? Tuning it this way or that will leave you  
with the consequences for a long, long time, and re-tuning it is a  
huge and expensive task as well. Old organs that have been tuned  
meantone or well-tempered originally should be kept that way or put  
back to their original condition, because experience tells that they  
sound so much better with the tuning system they were designed for --  
the design including scaling, winding, layout, choice of stops etc.

So, all things being equal, the question really is: Do we want to  
spend money on a modern organ tuned in a non-equal tuning system?  
What the gain, what's the loss?

Best,
Friedrich


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