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I also can’t believe that Anna Magdalena wrote the cello suites.  But I can believe that she may have helped in many ways we can not guess and that among the daughters there may have been genius too.  Women got the short stick...

As to title pages in Germany… using French is common and normal.  It is the lingua franca of Europe and used for elevated discourse and dedication.

It is always a challenge to pin point Bach’s uses of foreign styles.  He works like an alchemist melting metals together and coming up with precious materials!  But the Piece d’Orgue is a VERY French style work surrounded by brilliant North German organist virtuosity as prelude and postlude.  He pays homage to De Grigny big time in that magnificent 5 voiced work.  

As to Italian terminology in scores, Bach knew the Vivaldi productions coming out of Amsterdam.  These works changed him…profoundly changed the way he composed.  And all these volumes of concerti have their instructions in Italian.  I wonder when he begins using Allegro Largo  etc…and how that relates to his time in Weimar where his familiarity with Italian music became so rich.

Andrew
> On May 31, 2016, at 6:05 AM, J. Claudio Di Veroli <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
>> Andrew wrote:... Bach Solo Cello Suites. Our Professor Jarvis over
> her in Australia believes there is strong evidence for the composer to have
> been Anna Magdalena. Part of the evidence is the title page to the copy of
> the Violin Solos and Cello Suites by Schwanberg, stating 'ecrite par Madame
> Bachen'. There are academic fisticuffs and much blood spilt over whether
> 'ecrite' means copied or composed, and this particular specific piece of
> evidence is not settled in my view. 
> 
> But most other musicologists think otherwise, for the contrary evidence is
> significant: (a) The style and the masterly writing is 100% J.S. Bach.
> (b) The Cello Suites are dated c.1720: Anna Magdalena was barely 19 at the
> time. Had she been such an outstanding and mature composer as a teenager,
> and had she composed for the cello (instrument rarely played by women at the
> time), it is difficult to understand why she did not leave other
> masterpieces.
> 
>> But what has had me puzzled just this week is why a German would write a
> cover page for Bach works in French.
> 
> Bach - for whichever reason - gave French titles to many works that were
> truly in Italian style (for example the Piece d'orgue). So perhaps his wife
> did too.
> 
> All the best!
> 
> CDV
> 
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