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Thank you Mr. Moroney for this valuable insight to these numerous editions/sources. 

Not being a "professional" full time performer but one that still enjoys studying the pieces, I've been hesitant on investing in any one of the "newer" editions of Froberger, although I have bought a couple of volumes of the old "Denkmaler Der Tokunst in Osterreich" series as a starting point. 

Essentially, I guess what we've all been looking for is that definitive collection that would've had all the pieces from all the sources in one final edition but not to be, apparently. 

Thanks you again very much for your providing the info needed. It is very much appreciated! 

Norbert Fronczak - "Musician-composer to be heard of someday" in Michigan. 
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From: "Davitt MORONEY" <[log in to unmask]> 
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Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2016 11:06:25 PM 
Subject: Re: Froberger Baerenreiter edition 

It all depends on how personally invested you are in Froberger's music. If 
he's "one of your guys" then go for it, because you'll want all modern 
editions -- and will actually need them side by side, along with some other 
sources such as Roberday, Bauyn III, and the Hintze MS, etc... None of the 
modern editions is adequate because they all take different approaches. 

The major problem is the emergence in recent years of several really 
important new Froberger sources. 
-- The traditional sources (the Vienna MSS and the earliest printed 
editions) were published by Garland many years ago; they are available in 
most university libraries and are mostly online also. 
-- Other new sources are also now available in facsimile. And others are on 
IMSLP. 
-- But the newest source (sold at auction in London in 2006) is an 
autograph MS that contains many otherwise unknown pieces that are still 
unpublished in either modern edition or facsimile. The MS is kept strictly 
in private ownership (currently in Paris) . A good summary of it was made 
by Bob van Asperen: 
http://sscm-jscm.org/jscm/v13/no1/vanasperen.html 

No single modern edition can really be satisfying until everything is 
available. But even then, Froberger (even more so than Chambonnières) may 
well be a classic case of a composer for whom no single standard scholarly 
edition will ever be satisfactory, given all the variables and all the 
variants in different sources that have compelling but different validity. 
In my opinion, the Bärenreiter edition, while trying to be a "variorum" 
edition that gives variants, tended to fall short of even that limited 
target -- and that was before the recent discovery of the additional 
sources. But of course, anyone really interested in Froberger must have it. 
And the prefaces about Froberger himself are essential reading. 

Best wishes, 
DM 



*Davitt MoroneyProfessor of Music; University OrganistDirector, University 
Baroque Ensemble* 

On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 7:21 PM, David Cates <[log in to unmask]> wrote: 

> I was looking at the Rampe edition of Froberger, wondering whether I 
> should take the plunge; there are 8 volumes in total, quite a challenge for 
> the bookshelf. 
> To anyone familiar with this edition, is there any significant overlap 
> among the volumes, or do you really "need" to spring for the whole set?? 
> Thanks 
> David 
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