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Dear Chris,

the formulae in my webpage are valid for all the unwound strings.
My calculations, adding the needed one decimal accuracy to low-frequencies,
i.e. for FF in E.T. 41.2 Hz (in other temperaments it's up to 41.6) 
I get 17.9 Hz, not significantly different from the calculations from our
friends.

Apart from these tension calculation, my knowledge and experience about what
stringing a fortepiano needs is NIL, sorry to say!
But quite a few list members (if not too much taken by the exchanges in
Facebook, sometimes by the very best and very interesting, others very silly
I have to say) certainly are very knowledgeable!

Best wishes!

Claudio
 
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From: Harpsichords and Related Topics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Chris Vandekerkhove
Sent: 28 December 2016 10:09
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Subject: Re: Yellow brass tension question

Hello Claudio,

It's for a pianoforte (wooden framing). The original diameter was 1,025 mm.

Do you think this is too much for a copy of a Dulcken of 1795?

Sincerely,

Chris.

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Van: Harpsichords and Related Topics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Namens
J. Claudio Di Veroli
Verzonden: dinsdag 27 december 2016 18:59
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Onderwerp: Re: Yellow brass tension question

> Chris wrote ... 1688 millimeter ... F ... Hz=41, Diameter 1,15mm. 
> 17.46kg David wrote ... 17.32 mm.

Dear Chris,

I am actually scared by your question!!

First of all, by "tension", since you express it in kilograms, you obviously
mean "pull", or total tension of the string against the case.
(there is another important "tension", the specific one of the strings
against its own mateerial, in kg/sq.mm of cross section, and is important to
find out whether a string will or not break).

Secondly, yours and David calculations are more or less accurate, but 17.5
kgs is much above what a harpsichord is meant to stand per string!
WARNING: Do NOT install this string, as you will damage the harpsichord!
Historical harpsichords never had more than 8kg. of  pull per string!

The error is easy to find. For example, historical French Harpsichords had
their largest wire gauge "00". Wraight's reconstruction for this is 0.63mm.
In the extreme bass it yields a "pull" of about 6kg, not 17!
The largest size in my 40-off collection of harpsichord replacement wires is
.025" or 0.64mm. This is a bit more than half your diameter, and explains
why your very high size yields 3 times as much.

Where did you get the idea of using 1.15 mm wire on a harpsichord?
(I am curious!)

Best wishes,

CDV
http://harps.braybaroque.ie/Taskin_stringing.htm



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